5m was for 6 years” @MHver3 I’m hearing that Kliavkoff has plans to visit UNLV, Fresno St, and Boise St over the next few weeks. An olive branch was extended by GK to BY with terms that favor B12 this time. Sign up“I’ve got a pretty big scoop to share that I’ve been sitting on for a few days. It was $24. If 4 teams get taken from the ACC by the Power 2, there is a good chance FSU is not one of them. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. He was dealt a horrible“Oregon is as good as already out the door as talks between the Ducks and B10 are intensifying. Huge mistake. Top to bottom though this new B12 would be the best conference ever assembled. so mhver az asu utah and colorado do you think they are gonzo heading to join us in the big12 ? 1. Huskies have come back to the table. Hearing that GK is telling some of the PAC presidents that he may not have any new developments in the tv negotiations to present at next weeks meeting. ACC adding west coast schools could severely affect B12 expansion plan because its really just about that late window. UConn is still in the air as there could maybe be an all sports invite coming if the right circumstances occur but may be a bball only. Found. MHver3Washington State puts up shockingly good TV numbers. Taking a small break from sharing. In person. Amazon gets more first choice. I’d prefer B12 waits for eventual ACC poaching and go and get our old BIgEast mates. @xtmountain. 2. Cliff notes of meetings: Colorado will rejoin the B12. The other two have been flirting with B12 for years and few they are a better fit with B12 in culture and philosophy. Phillips had a call this afternoon with Kliavkoff and Yormark/Bowlsby about an alliance of the 3 conferences. As well as ESPN about triggering the reopening of their contract in the event of additions. All 3 tiers. Then there’s also the chance that the NY6 bowls all become absorbed into the expanded playoffs as round 1 of a 12 team playoff. The other $5m is from a variety of different T3 revenue streams. As the Pac-12 deals with losing UCLA and USC to the Big Ten and the Big 12 explores a raid on the Pac-12, audience data can be instructive. I actually don’t want more western schools. Sign upSee new Tweets. 10:09 PM · Jul 26, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. twitter. Retweets. They let UCF pass them up. @MHver3. Likes. ”““We haven't decided if we're going shopping there yet,"-Kliavkoff, spewing venomously at the conference that just recently decided a merger with his conference wasn’t financially attractive. ”“My source just informed me that Arizona, Colorado, Utah, and Arizona State have applied for membership with the B12. Take it with a grain of salt-not my usual source. “Still haven’t gotten confirmation or info of the possible meetings for Utah and AZ…”“@MurrDCU They’d be a decent add just for the recruiting area. ”@MHver3 I don't know what the rumors are you're talking about, but it's pretty simple. 159. Quote Tweets. Colorado feels like they are on an island and being pushed out. ”Small PAC tidbit: the unequal revenue sharing model being discussed now would be based on achievement in all sanctioned sports. and @Mountaineer_Ste. ”MHver3 @MHver3. 13. Sign up“Big rumor! Notre Dame has allegedly made the ACC an offer they can’t accept to join that conference in all sports. ” ACC again proposed an aggressive expansion to 20 teams and has been talking with OR/WA/Stanford/and Cal. 21 Feb 2023 23:32:48Feb 24. Replying to . @MHver3 FWIW my sources are telling me that FOX is NOT actively negotiating with PAC. 1. Memphis and Boise(FB only) are definitely the front runners. Oregon, Washington, Stanford, and one other might be. 3. ”“@GibeiiBrewsong @USAdebtcrisis I say 6 are leaving but ORWA will try to keep them all together under the ridiculous uneven revenue sharing model espn is pushing but that will not sit with the 4 corners schools and they will bolt which will lead to ORWA bolting as well. I’d be thrilled if Colorado and Arizona came. 131. GK still only has the ESPN/Amazon offer of $22m per school. I’ve got news but can’t leak it yet. ”ACC again proposed an aggressive expansion to 20 teams and has been talking with OR/WA/Stanford/and Cal. ”Log in. 2. 3. What I’m hearing on PAC media deal (or lack thereof) from a B12 source based on B12 talks with a PAC school. one president is telling B12 contacts that there is a feeling GK. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 3. I’ll update as I get more info. The BYU factor”Interestingly enough Stanford and Cal would not be part of this proposed merger. This helps justify the pro-rata increase for 8 teams. ESPN has ACC and PAC over a barrel in different ways and isn’t likely to pay more. That’s all I’ve got. @m_iguel_ca. I do think the basement for some PAC schools is $28m net per school with at least 50% linear. “You can’t make this stuff up! (Though I will be accused of it anyway 😂). “@RChalk94 But Washington and Oregon add $60+ million per year apiece to a tv deal when you look at the data” “As I type this the Arizona schools are discussing exit strategy and AZ is making their case for autonomy to decide conference affiliation (in case they are the only one that gets an invite). I’ve maintained that schools are still waiting on the deal to come in before making a decision. MHver3 @MHver3. Most recent figure I’ve heard for Pac12 is just south of $20m per year per school after broadcasting expenses are covered in house. ”“How BIgEast conference’s demise as a power conference is playing a role in Big12’s current thought process regarding expansion, tv contract, and GOR. Jeff “Jelly” Stacks“Juicy tidbit just coming in. 22 Feb 2023 21:50:26Reposting this again at the request of my source with alternate phrasing: Colorado board will meet Monday to informally poll where votes would lie for leaving PAC. “@BobOThomson Yes. PAC media: Hearing that no concrete numbers were presented and that the mystery partner that was coming back to the table was ION. ” The latest tweets from @MHver3@MHver3 It is expected that tonight, Az and CU leadership will officially sign off on moving forward with officially applying for membership with Big12. ”10:23 PM · Jul 22, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Might even see a Huskie or two. One feels they were sold a false bill of goods when they joined. Life has been different since my brothers passing and priorities have changed a bit. Replying to @Brewenor. I simply share and have a golden reputation of never giving up sources. 10:33 PM · Sep 7, 2021 · Twitter for iPhone. B12 has a chance to get into 20m households with additions. The additional money you see with the total conference payouts includes bowls, CFP, ncaa. Boise State is making a lot of noise wanting B12 to reopen their application. I’m packing it up. Likes. Again they did not have 8 yes votes for either school. Sign up“@ChiefsInsider There’s a legitimate academic snobbery by the presidents and they are trying their damndest to go down with the ship. They could very well join the four south schools in the B12… until the B1G change their mind. Temporarily making my account public just to help get my info out for whomever may want to read. Likes. 31 May 2023 13:12:44. (Ralph Freso / Associated Press) Sources say preliminary talks have started on a merger between San Diego State’s current conference and the Pac-12, which is in. You’re unable to view this Tweet because this account owner limits who can view their Tweets. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 2. And they all already know the current numbers. Found. 7. Sign up“Aresco has a petition with the signatures of every G5 school president and G5 conference commissioner to deliver to the FTC complaining of anti-competitive practices and collusion of the selection committee. The only true and reliable "source'' yet to surface on the Pac-12's future. “So I was told the proposed breakdown for unequal revenue sharing for PAC. It’s the eve of yet another deadline for Pac12 media deal to be presented to members. @MHver3. Guess the state of AZ to BIG12 has died down though. If acc gets it first then B12 may have no need for further expansion at this time outside of maybe the. 239. MHver3 @MHver3. The third is a big market school with a great history that has underperformed in recent years. 9. ”Log in. @MHver3. Power5 (or 4) will most likely have an autobid for their champ after playoffs expand. Gonna say it again for everyone in the back playing with graphs and charts on Excel: Fox has already approved pro rata for the B12 to add specific teams so they will not get “only $20m” they will get the full share. 7:34 PM · Jul 20, 2022 MHver3. Sign up“Called my source. By my count there are 3 "Yes" teams in the ACC and 3 "Maybe" teams. ”Just heard from a source that Oregon has reached out to the B12 about potential membership with the condition they have a negotiated out of the GOR if the B10 comes calling. 19. Finger pointing, yelling amongst leadership, and very pissed at ESPN for the hit piece on their conference while they are supposed to be negotiating in good faith. and @Mountaineer_Ste. Offering to join in football only at 50% of a full share of revenue after the buy in period. Log in. 03 Apr 2023 22:41:17Morning tidbit:A very prominent booster for Colorado is now threatening to pull all funding from the school If they do not start to actively seek to get out of the sinking ship that is the Pac 12. 2:52 PM · Jul 4, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. MHver3 @MHver3. 4 PAC schools plus Kliavkoff pushed for the conference to take the ESPN money and the other 6 schools refused. Murky version is: ducks are in a row but the can is getting kicked down the road. “@RChalk94 B12 100% takes Colorado if they want in. 27. ”“PAC and ACC leadership have had discussion about an alliance but only if it benefits by getting espn to reopen their tv contract. “ESPN has been quietly pushing for a B10/SEC Rose Bowl so don’t get too excited yet. There’s no reason to add anyone else to dilute the tv money just to have an even number. Without ORWA it will be closer to $32-$34 plus control of tier3”NBC/USA were also interested in some PAC content but they wanted it at a deep discount and are “worlds apart” from what GK was asking for. MHver3. Likes. So that lines up with pretty much every other report coming out except for 1. ”Uconn is going to win the championship. Log in. 19 Jul 2023 04:22:28. I said AAC (not ACC) invited PAC members. ”“Sorry I’ve been away so long. “Boise State making their case for inclusion into the B12. But it was requested by the source who shared the info with me. Talks are indeed dead for a merger. #Pac12DoomsdayClock”Sign up. However UConn and Nova can make a case for being in that discussion. Log in. 150 seconds to PACmidnight. SMU especially due to political and religious connotations…table that fwiw. But again, aside from Rutgers going to B10, Pitt had the most room for improvement. OKST has been too one sided lately to be a rivalry-hopefully we can change that. Sign up“So my new source just told me some of the terms to NDs offer to the ACC: 7 conference games a year with 4 of them home games, 1st choice scheduling, not signing the GOR for football, and something to do with eliminating the exit fee from the charter. Current B12 expansion landscape: Colorado and UConn have been completely vetted by the conference and networks and B12 will receive pro-rata for both. Things are getting crazy!”“And the endgame is probably 16 teams. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ” We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. If 4 teams get taken from the ACC by the Power 2, there is a good chance FSU is not one of them. @MHver3. ”“@BroncoJ415 @MrSamStone3 There’s a lot of things on the table. U conn not make this stuff up!New development to share: 2 PAC presidents plan to call for a vote of no confidence in GK at next weeks meeting. Without the additions the show could very well be on the other foot right now. Look for a thread soon. MHver3 @MHver3. 251. ”“Expansion committee presented a lot of info to Bowlsby and Yormark. MHver3 @MHver3. Also a high ranking member of. ”“So ESPN takes more games than the current contractual obligation and uses them in the late window. And they all already know the current numbers. Replying to. “So this was considered sensitive info for awhile but the silence of these 2 universities is about to be over. Sign upFwiw I’m hearing the ION Tv thing was a red herring fed to McMurphy and Kliavkoff is only a few days away from having 2 final proposals in hand to take to his schools for voting. MHver3 on Twitter: "@StevO_1960 It’s in the ESPN contract. Quote Tweets. ACC still has 2 blue bloods to B12’s 1. ”Also hearing TCU and Texas Tech plan on pulling out of games scheduled with Oregon and Stanford if Pac12 goes all streaming out of visibility concerns for the pac owned games. That was a guarantee. ConversationWe would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Yormark has a vision. It got nasty from what I’ve been told. ”Pac voted on SDSU and SMU again. Redirecting to /MHver3/status/1516166017319411713 Not sure if Apple Inc is well known in Appalachia but spoiler alert it’s not a fruit company 1:52 AM · Jul 26, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. bob trollsby. 4:22 AM · Jul 19, 2023. MHver3 @MHver3 Hearing from B12 contacts in communication with Pac12 contacts that AZ and Colorado have NOT committed to signing a GOR and will not agree to sign one without a complete deal in front of them that is equitable and on par with B12/ACC. Sign up. ”That scenario was floated by Fox. And several mid tier schools that would be shaky getting a new home as well”“I’m also hearing a lot of people describing espns offer to PAC as a lowball offer. @MHver3 CU board is in lockstep to pursue B12 membership if GK doesn’t come through with promised deal by June 30th…. Evening tidbit: as of today’s meeting BY had with networks, any combination of 4 of the following schools (all sports) will be acceptable for ESPN and FOX to pay. Posted on 37 mins, V I P, User Since 8 months ago, User Post Count: 670. This person isn’t a high level employee and I’ve verified they are who they say they are. $120m from Amazon/$100m espn. “@BobOThomson I don’t really have a source close to that program but I can just reiterate what I tweeted a couple of weeks ago: Utah isn’t a priority and is very low on B12 radar”“@RChalk94 I’m not trying to get anyone to believe me. I’ve also heard that Pac12 may not have enough yes votes from members to add SDSU and SMU. “@vikingburner Seton Hall is no longer an option. Likes. @MHver3. 5m. Yearly scheduling of 1 ACC team per school. 30 Mar 2023 18:54:47Gonna say it again for everyone in the back playing with graphs and charts on Excel: Fox has already approved pro rata for the B12 to add specific teams so they will not get “only $20m” they will get the full share. #PACinShambles”“ACC hoped that by getting Stanford it would compel ND to join. The in-fighting is bad currently with those schools. 1. Again they did not have 8 yes votes for either school. FSU is the most attractive maybe. 6. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. If B12 adds the right 6 PAC schools it can see its yearly payouts go above that $35m per school number the way the current deal is structured. and. “Hearing BY is meeting with a school president from that conference on the pacific coast. Likes. MHver3, a Twitter user who posts controversial and speculative tweets about college football, claims that BYU and Houston are the initial targets for the Big 12's. It was $24. Retweets. @bobtrollsby. I’m being told there will be a Big12 meeting that evening that could potentially have huge ramifications for the Big12 and the college sports landscape in general. Hearing Colorado President and AD will be meeting with BY on campus in the near future. Clash of Champioms “Bowl” (more on that in next tweet”” “@flugempire @YouTube The numbers are not where the presidents want them. SawyerBrown94 @RChalk94 · Jul 20. 7h. It actually decreases it. Oh btw there is an AZ board of regents. Valuation of per school is higher if omitting 2 of the 6 because the projected media dollars are very similar with or without those 2. 11. Evening tidbit: as of today’s meeting BY had with networks, any combination of 4 of the following schools (all sports) will be acceptable for ESPN and FOX to pay. 22 Feb 2023 21:50:26Reposting this again at the request of my source with alternate phrasing: Colorado board will meet Monday to informally poll where votes would lie for leaving PAC. Washington State puts up shockingly good TV numbers. I don’t hate the PAC. This happened sometime in the past few days. ”“The first show to drop was Notre Dame and NBC and the whole “shoulder programming” proposal. Up to 75% would be streaming. 3:14 AM · Jul 24, 2021. They're all signing a shorter GoR, it's not so much giving up as letting the landscape settle and use the time to build their. “RUMOR: Pac12 offer from ESPN: $220 million per year, no expansion. @MHver3 Big12 is possibly only eyeing 4 of the 6 to stop at 16 for now. ACC adding west coast schools could severely affect B12 expansion plan because its really just about that late window. ·. ”“@SHUWalshgym They’d only need to share about 7-8m per each of the 4 schools. Got a PAC update. ”“Would a LHN converted into the B12 network, a 20 year Sugar Bowl contract and a guarantee of 8 SEC OOC games per year for 10 years be enough of a carrot for B12 to allow TXOU out early with only the exit fee penalty?”“Oregon and Washington want to wait out the 30 day window on the exclusive period for Fox and espn to renegotiate Pac12 contract before making a decision on B12 application. I don’t normally delete anything. Baylor is too. Likes. Knight felt it was the best outcome for Oregon and the PAC with no B1G offer coming. MHver3 @MHver3. 26 Mar 2023 03:01:53Ah-here’s where the subscriber metrics come into play for Apple TV deal: subscription service add on that would see a majority of the baseball games, half the basketball games, and some football games locked behind a paywall. “@ConfCommandos Schwartzwalder wasn’t really a ratings boon after McNabb finished his 10 year career at Cuse though. Their fans are this nasty-imagine how bad it is between the schools right now. Log in. The contact that shared this with my source is in a PAC school AD and their school was not satisfied with any of the update-said that the CEOs specifically told GK not to do a presser. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. We make more than that currently for all of tier3. ”What did I tell you? No new movement to share with PAC presidents. @MHver3 But when you factor in possible matchups, multiple time zones, and other data there’s a strong belief from media consultants that the 6 PAC schools joining B12 could see their collective value closer to the full $250m yearly that ESPN was willing to pay all 10 in a vacuum @MHver3 Jul 27, 2022 If we receive applications from all 4 of the corners schools (we already have one from SDSU from last year) it’s likely we initially only invite 2 and then wait for tv negotiations to open up before adding whomever the other 2 will be. The only 2 schools in the PAC that B12 has had no open dialogue with are the Cali schools. They are going to get the money they want without joining a conference. ”“I want to hear from Oregon fans. ”Hearing GK struck out with the Amazon/ESPN deal and it’s not even going to the table for a vote-presidents asking him to go back to the networks and negotiate it higher. “Those of you worrying about access to playoffs due to harder due to W/L record if B12 drops scheduling FCS and moved to 10 conference games-relax. “RUMOR: Pac12 offer from ESPN: $220 million per year, no expansion. The Big 10 should just bring in all the schools in the Pac 10 as a Western division. FSU is the most attractive maybe. My source can confirm Colorado is. “And the killer for Utah is that even tough they are valued in the top half the one Power conference that they have a shot at may not really want them because they have a school in that market and lower valued schools like AZ are actually higher valued to B12. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Boise. See new Tweets“@TreJacksonStan @kg4cy I guess that’s subjective. That’s it. There’s so much information to pour through and so many moving pieces that B12 leadership alone can’t keep up. “Morning tidbits: Fox is done with Pac12 as an entity and has no plans to even bid on a new tv contract. We are indeed talking to Rich Rodriguez to return to WVU but as of now it’s only talks. Likes. 9. @KStateKyle. The desire of B10 is to bring both Washington and Oregon into the fold but Fox is balking at overpaying for both west coast schools considering the actual value they bring. ACCN/Pac12N broadcasting agreement talks fell apart when the Comcast Pac12 scandal broke. 1. MHver3. “@godawgs4 Not really. If you start to hear reports of a PAC media offer for $25-28m per school trickle out keep a couple of things in mind: 14 Mar 2023 14:40:40@MHver3 · 1h. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Once again I return from a long absence and bring you info. Yormark has a vision. “So this was considered sensitive info for awhile but the silence of these 2 universities is about to be over. ”“Lots of tidbits and rumors pouring in today. ”@MHver3 · May 25. ACC would like to lock up the pacific coast with WA/OR/Cal/Stanford additions as it would be a huge infusion to ACCN. 2. “Espn is telling B12 through back channels that they would like to broker a deal to convert LHN into a Big12 network and secure all of B12 tier 3 rights for 7 years. 2. Sign upSee new Tweets. So not just a. Retweets. While I’m not “back” yet I do have some things to share since speaking with a source today. Learn to create and view Twitter threads to provide additional context or updates. . AZ too. Yearly scheduling of 1 ACC team per school. 12:57 PM · Jul 27, 2021 · Twitter for iPhone Sorry for deleting the previous tweet. ” “@BroncoJ415 @MrSamStone3 There’s a lot of things on the table. ” We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. By my count there are 3 "Yes" teams in the ACC and 3 "Maybe" teams. Retweets. If the ND/Big 12/NBC rumors have any truth to them, I imagine the Big 12 became even more attractive for those schools. Utah athletic director Mark Harlan needs just four words to disarm the Arizona-to-Big 12 narrative. UConn is still in the air as there could maybe be an all sports invite coming if the right circumstances occur but may be a bball only. ”“@DeathrowDerham They want first pick of the top game weekly, best out of conference games not beholden to the other schools tv contract, conference championship game football, and first choice basketball. 2. Transfer ownership of Pac12 networks to espn. That’s it. Sign upLog in. When information hits I have a duty to share (even if the text comes at 12:15am and I have to work at 6am!). Hence why Texas and OU are staying until 2025. @MHver3. Interestingly enough there is another school in these discussions with Boise that is interested in joining just Olympic sports…”“@tsaundry13 You’ve convinced me. @MHver3. “Also not a damn one of those that laughed at me when I said months ago ACC was going to adopt unequal revenue sharing came back and apologized. 16 Jul 2023 00:27:09. 6. Something new that moves forward and forgets the past. ”“Alright! Got the go ahead to post it. But it’s looking like B12 needs to make the next move. Most of it was in depth financials done by our media consultants. ”Hearing that Pac12 presidents have vehemently rejected 100% streaming proposal from apple. AZ has not been completely vetted like the other two but since they are current P5 B12 would get Prorata. My source says it’s getting more and more likely a prodigal son returns. Pac12 additions in all sports are priority number 1. Quote Tweets. Corey Wishnia. 17. Things have escalated. @MHver3. ”“Just heard that Yormark meeting with Knight was basically Knight pleading to Yormark to keep the merger talks going and make it happen. ConversationReports that Pac12 is assessing SDSU and SMU are old news that many have known since USC and UCLA bolted. ”Log in. Sign up“@tsaundry13 Too early to tell. Not sure what’s going on there yet-just hearing preliminary info-but hearing it from multiple sources. 5m. MHver3🍎 😂 😂 😂. He’s also telling me the big catch with the apple deal would be research grants to member schools-an area apple has been historically lagging behind other tech companies. I just wish I could get some info from the PAC but that has dried up the past few days. Feel like FSU is the most vocal because they are the most edge case in the ACC. @cwishn. Likes. Sounds like he expects a number of his current members to go else where. Oils be basketball/Olympic only additions before that happens though. ”Bedtime snippet: I’ve been exchanging DMs with someone employed at a P12 athletic department. Better than all 4 Four Corners schools. 6.